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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 01:19 PM
Lil chess dudes!
Disclaimer
They don't actually default to clown uniform.
That's all you're going to find on Google but that's bc the first thing John threw in was a harlequin doll (edited)
so clown themeing was permanent
So Skaia is kingdom hearts.
Vague as hell
But it's also like
A physical thing right (edited)
It's a metaphor but it's also a video game for the PlayStation 2
And part of that metaphor is
Chess.
Skaia, like KH, is a commentary on the classic fantasy legend.
Good Vs Evil
White Vs Black
Light Vs Light Again, But Evil This Time
And part of that is chess
Homestuck took a lot of its parody elements fairly cynically
So while the chess dudes represent good vs evil
Good will always lose.
And it's then up to the players to defeat whoever has the Ring (held by the Black King), and use it to power the forge to light the frog to create the universe to fix the hole in my boot dear Lilah a hole
ahyperLUL 2
I will explain
All that
In greater detail later
But the big things to know is that carapascian society is meant as parody. The pawns obv don't know that
But like
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aorticAblution 12-Jan-22 01:24 PM
(doesnt it need the queens ring too?)
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 01:25 PM
Oh yeah
(where did the trolls get the queen's ring?)
(is it wq that has the ring always?)
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aorticAblution 12-Jan-22 01:25 PM
(operation regisurp)
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 01:25 PM
Ah
I'm confused if there are 4 rings or only 2
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aorticAblution 12-Jan-22 01:25 PM
(aradia became a frog, bq hates frogs, took off the ring, they stole it without having to fight her)
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 01:25 PM
One for each side?
Ah
Yep.
So they just didn't interface w prospit like at all
Didn't need to
I know it's WQ's ring for the beta kids
I'm speaking in heavy lingojargon but that's not part of the guide dear reader
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aorticAblution 12-Jan-22 01:26 PM
i guess maybe you just need any two rings?
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 01:26 PM
Hmm
I think that makes sense
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aorticAblution 12-Jan-22 01:27 PM
huh yeah
you dont actually need to ally with prospit
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 01:27 PM
Kanaya says "a ring"
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aorticAblution 12-Jan-22 01:27 PM
you can ally with derse and take the prospit rings and thatd work too
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 01:27 PM
Not sure why u needed to kill BK then
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aorticAblution 12-Jan-22 01:27 PM
maybe you dont maybe its just the obvious answer
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 01:27 PM
Yeah
She said it was trivial
I think they just, like, did it
For final boss satisfactiony reasons
Oh no
No yeah I remember why
If BK has the ring he'll start the reckoning
Bring down the whole fuckin place
And slash or red miles
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aorticAblution 12-Jan-22 01:28 PM
riiiiiight
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 01:28 PM
Just dangerous to let them keep it
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aorticAblution 12-Jan-22 01:28 PM
yes yes yes
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 01:29 PM
Okay okay okay
Back to the guide
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But the big things to know is that carapascian society is meant as parody. The pawns obv don't know that
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 01:29 PM
Carapscian society is kinda a parody
More in the pandomime way (edited)
Replicating it in an absurd manner
If you were to ask someone to draw like
A rook from chess
As a soldier in a battle
Like, yeah, lol.
Has a bit of that castle crashers newgrounds early web cartoon edginess to it
And the thing to know is that, the battlefield, where this battle between Light and Dark literally takes place
Evolves over time.
Specifically, it evolves with successive prototyping
(which, am now realizing, that's why entry into the game is usually staggered somewhat, so that the battlefield takes a while to get going alongside the players.)
Again prototyping I'll explain in a dedicated thread but for now it's just
A progression mechanic in the game, that responds to player input.
It's one of the key customization features of the game engine (edited)
And that customization is reflected through the carapscians (and imps tho we'll get there) specifically. (edited)
Carapascians are also a reflection of the art style Hussie used for his older comics
Extrapolating the cartoon features very literally
Okay, says Hussie, I drew these guys as stick figures w all white or all black
They are Insect Like Creatures and that is a hard exoskeleton
(plastic. They're chess pieces)
I'll get to how they actually Come Into Being in the cloning thread (edited)
But for now I'll skip to their monarchy.
There are two carapscian kingdoms in each session of the game
Prospit (white) and Derse (black)
I'll do prospit first bc it's easier I think
Derse gets a little complicated
And I'll expand more in the planets thread
Prospit is like
Y'know.
The good guys!
Their kingdoms are gleaming gold and they're distinctly not evil (or something)
The planet is close to Skaia.
Then Derse
Derse is much farther away
Purple and black color scheme vs Prospit's gold and white
This stuff isn't important yet and im not gonna talk abt the dreamer stuff or moon whatever until later
Probably the GT thread
Just carapscians for now
The kingdoms each have their own king and queen
And Derse has a bonus set of NPCs
These guys are the face cards
Er
No they're not.
They're just
They're four guys.
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aorticAblution 12-Jan-22 01:42 PM
but that idea of them being the face cards sure sounds cool
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 01:42 PM
They, uh. Okay. I'm just going to
Save them
For later
One of them is Jack forgive me!!!
But the king and queen are the king and queen
ONE BIG THING ABT CARAPASCIANS I DIDN'T MENTION
is that they all have Very Important Initials
Like
Their initials are more important to their sense of continuous identity than their name
WQ is
The White Queen
But once she's exiled (more on that in a moment) she becomes the Windswept Questant (edited)
So the four guys above are
SS
(Spades Slick -- this guy is the most important) (edited)
DD (Draconian Dignitary)
(diamonds droog)
HB
(hegemonic brute/hearts boxcars)
CD (edited)
Courtyard Droll
(clubs deuce)
Remember how I said that they weren't face cards
JUST KIDDINF
Jack Noir is a face card
Totally fucking forgot
Spades Slick is a cool mobster nickname he made up for himself in the mafia au
Why did they have a mafia au
Fuckin
Idk
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aorticAblution 12-Jan-22 01:48 PM
homestuck is weird
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 01:49 PM
(I HAVE AN ANSWER BUT ITS DUMB AND WE ALREADY ANSWERED IT KINDA)
(Hussie had this thing where you could pay him to draw special crossover panels of his comic either with your OCs or you or whatever and someone came up w those four as like, card suit themed mobsters opposed to the detectives from Problem Sleuth)
(and he liked them and tried to figure out a way to insert them into hs)
So he gave the king and queen chess figureheads the dual property of being face cards, and elevated Spades Slick into being Jack Noir.
The thing about these guys, specifically Jack
Is that as NPCs in the game Sburb, they're generated to be on Derse's side of the war between light and dark
But jack
Is programmed to be ready to betray the queen
At like
Any fuckin time
And she is programmed to be fucking annoying to him.
They have a hatefuck thing going on you see while humans only have one symbol to denote love ❤️ trolls and carapascians actually have four, those being--
♠♣♥♦
Because,
Funny cards reference
I am also realizing
That trolls 100% got the quadrants
from carapascians
Bc doc scratch totally would, right?
He would (edited)
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aorticAblution 12-Jan-22 01:54 PM
yeah
what an asshole
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 01:54 PM
I'm gonna save
That
For later
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aorticAblution 12-Jan-22 01:54 PM
they dont need to know doc scratch or the quadrants viri
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 01:54 PM
Even tho it's honestly way way way easier than classpects it's a total distraction
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aorticAblution 12-Jan-22 01:54 PM
its all totally irrelevant to this game
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 01:55 PM
Not Doc Scratch I just like quadrants please
But that's a for fun thing
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aorticAblution 12-Jan-22 01:55 PM
i know i do too but they dont need to know them lol
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 01:55 PM
Yee
Anyway
He will betray her
And maybe help the players maybe make things way worse
Depends.
Very stabby, knifey enjoying dude
the depiction of the monarchy in canon makes a lot of jokes abt american beaurocracy
Jack for example spends like
Most of his day
Signing parking tickets
And Prospit has a dedicated fuckin
Thing
About Mail
I don't know man
I'm gonna talk about the rings now
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aorticAblution 12-Jan-22 01:57 PM
mail is breath tickets are blood there done
😱 1
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 01:57 PM
The rings are supposed to be one of the big Key Items of Homestuck
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mail is breath tickets are blood there done
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 01:58 PM
No wonder Jack and Karkat got along
Basically, the Rings allow certain priveleges to the wearer (if they are carapscian. If they're not, it does basically nothing 9 times out of ten.)
It'll allow your body to reflect the transformations done by prototyping (will get to in detail later)
It lets you summon big red end of world vines that are
sigh
a joke about gay porn
FUNNY
HUSSIE
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aorticAblution 12-Jan-22 02:00 PM
homestuck is bad, yall
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 02:01 PM
And it also lets the wearer bring down meteors to rain down on your opponents. Useful if you're in a battle of light vs dark and need to defeat your enemies quickly (edited)
Bringing down the meteors is called The Reckoning
And it's way more important than almost anything else that happens in the game bc of
stupid stuff I'll get to later
yawn
homestuck
but yeah.
You don't want bad guys to have these
Bc it gives them potentially transformative superpowers, as well as access to the /killall command.
IN SUMMARY
Lil chess dudes that fight each other on behalf of kings and queens. Royalty have rings which are very dangerous and powerful, don't let the bad guys keep em.
Derse has Jack Noir.
That's about it for now actually
I think I'll touch on exiles when I talk more abt meteors
But that's gonna be after cloning
But that's gonna be after more detailed cosmology
But that's gonna be after
I think
Dream selves.
And gting explained
Not that they need each other in that order
But it'll be easier in terms of
Like
What prerequisite knowledge
Dream selves and GTing I think can be explained now
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aorticAblution 12-Jan-22 02:05 PM
god theres so much
homestuck needs serious trimming
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 02:05 PM
Yes
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aorticAblution 12-Jan-22 02:05 PM
just
blegh
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 02:05 PM
And like
Kudos to it
Esp acts 1-4
For introducing this shit
Very seamlessly
You're always feeling like your mind is expanding
And it genuinely
Ljke
Meets that promise
That everything will be relevant later
In S Cascade.
Never really a single time after that tho.
And the issue is like
For the story of, for example, the alpha kids
None of this is fucking necessary.
Carapscians barely factor in
Which I think is on account of the GOOD MOVE by Hussie to just merge villains
He didn't need a new bq and bk
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aorticAblution 12-Jan-22 02:07 PM
(is that in universe because roxy was protecting them w void)
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 02:07 PM
Just replaced that tall evil lady role w HIC
Uh, to an extent yeah. The battlefield never evolves bc they don't prototype anything
Void sesh yk
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aorticAblution 12-Jan-22 02:08 PM
right right yee
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 02:08 PM
So the battle between light and dark
Simply does not occur
Okay
Tiger king les go
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