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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 08:32 PM
ASPECTS are fun as fuck lol
Aspects are the twelve fundamental forces of Homestuck. They describe the makeup of a story, a universe, and a video game -- all at the same time. They're incredibly flexible tools.
Each aspect is in a pair with another, shown in the above image. There are twelve, and each pair deals with a different part of storytelling/game mechanics/The Comic/the universe.
Aspects can be both incredibly personal and incredibly vast in their scope.
We'll start with the fundamental and expand outwards.
THE BOOK Time time and Space space THE SPEAKER Light light and Void void ORDER Life life and Doom doom THE WORLD Breath breath and Blood blood MAGIC Hope hope and Rage rage YOU Mind mind and Heart heart
I made these titles for the pairings up lol
Based on, it sounded cool.
ANyway
It starts with Time.
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TIME time Time is the Aspect of the ink of the story. It is time, it is momentum, it is music. It is loops and it is perpetuity. Time is the Aspect of Death. (edited)
Time is one of the two fundamental aspects. Without Time and Space you don't have anything to work with -- Pages and Ink
There are obviously tons more nuances to all of these elements, but we'll come back to them. They make a lot more sense when in relation with each other.
I also made emoji for each aspect lmao
timesunglasses
its cool bc dave strider is cool
I made a joke abt time being cryptocurrency but like, its maybe part of the reflection of the understanding of the farcical nature of it all
Homestuck is kind of a parody of its own genre to begin with. That's the point of the adversarial reader/author relationship
So then like, crypto, is complete and utter bullshit, so to hold that in your head and then go along with it anyway for promises of Returns Later, that's like... lol
That's serialized fiction babey
Points dont matter but we are going to TREAT IT LIKE IT DOES
haha
plz dont mint this chat as an nft
SPACE Space
wrong one
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 08:44 PM
the ONE place uncorrupted by capitalism
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 08:47 PM
SPACE space Space is the Aspect of the pages of the story. It is the universe where it takes place. It is vast and it is untouched, it is entropically mute without Space. Space is distant, reflected in Space players often having physical distance between them and the world. Space is also the Big Bang. Space is the natal universe -- it is explosions. Gas being lit. Space players often never have the full picture, because it keeps expanding away from them endlessly. (edited)
Space is also
Uh
Frogs
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get 1
out 1
For some reason.
So like
Homestuck is mostly built on meme energy
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transientAcatalepsy 11-Jan-22 08:50 PM
i gathered that
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 08:51 PM
and like
frog
s
are
for some reason
memetically speaking.
like
the key to all of this
because theyre a funnier animal than weve ever had before
froggychair
like think about it. pepe, kermit, fuckin, froggy chair, get out frog,
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theyre the funny animal!!!
and
so
homestuck was like
hey
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 08:52 PM
they also metamorphose
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 08:52 PM
yes
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crescentCecropia 11-Jan-22 08:52 PM
moths are superior disdain
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 08:52 PM
and homestuck was like hey
what if we
made
the universe
into a frog
.
and thats the goal of the game is to breed the frog that is also the new universe
sburb is fundamentally a pet simulator
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its funny bc balan wonderworld had an almost identical mechanic where u breed seemingly random creatures w almost no guidance to create the most powerful of them all
and everyone hated that lmao
anwyay
space is the aspect of frogs, because frogs are the universe
spaceexploding_head
Time + space together are a universe.
That's all you really need
The game inside of homestuck only has a few game mechanics tied to any aspects whatsoever, and one is frog breeding, and the other is Scratching, which is tied to the music thematic stuff of Time, but we'll get to that in the game mechanics stuff
But time and space are the ink on paper
It's the other aspects that make it into a Story.
LIGHT light Light is everything. It is the viewpoint, it is what you see. It is wealth and shiny things. It is relevance in a crowded spotlight. Light is canon. Light is correct. Light players tend to be wayyy up their own asses.
Just way up there
Light is really best understood in relation to Void, but it's also understood by what, like, a Thief of Light would steal, or what a Seer of Light sees. Gold, jewels, gems, screentime.
Where things will go and what will shake out.
It's the camera in your face and its the shape of things in your head.
It's also very funny lightlolmad
Mostly because I like making everything relevant to everything
It's connections -- yarn linking photos on a corkboard
Arrogance and discovery.
Void is
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 09:00 PM
Light^
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 09:00 PM
VOID void It would be really funny if I left this blank
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Light^
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 09:00 PM
If you have ever seen me having like a fuckin
Jimmy neutron brainblast when worldbuilding
That is light
LIght is LITERALLY
galaxybrain
THAT
THAT IS LIGHT
galaxybrain
that is unironically one of the best ways to describe it
okay void
VOID void Void is what lies below. It's the unspoken hands behind the curtain. It's irrelevance (as defined by Light) or it is comforting silence. It is the property of not existing -- it is the potential of what isn't there. (edited)
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also hilariously
gotta brb for a sec
Void is the negative space of possibility.
It's the unknown
But not unheard of.
Homestuck's void is filled with eldritch horrors that created the universe before the universe before the universe of Homestuck
Stagehands of reality
And taking the property of void from an object allows a Rogue of Void to essentially make something from nothing
Void players necessarily are not focused on by the narrative.
They evade the grasp of the PoV
Instead doing their own thing where they can't be seen.
Void players sometimes struggle with feeling unheard
And void players are excellent at letting go
For better or worse. (Mom Lalonde.)
Light players can learn from Void.
A light player is often obsessed with success, with being the name in everyone's mouth at any cost
A void player knows that doesn't matter if they have their friends with them in their pocket of nothing.
Fuck the spotlight. Dance like nobody's watching -- because they're not
I called Light/Void the speaker because it can define the PoV, what is and isn't discussed.
We don't talk about Bruno -- he's a void player
Seer of Void hahaha
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Because he sees the possibility for Mirabel
But he's not light. He can't define it for her
But he's been in the back the whole time
Understanding the issue in his house and trying to fix it his own way
Obviously his struggle w void was locking himself away on purpose bc he thought he was unloved
It's that balance, again!
Evan Hansen meanwhile is a Rogue of Light
Step into the sunnnnnn
He just fuckin
Just keeps getting handed shit
Forever
And is completely fuckin awful hahaha
Success and relevance and the camera
Literally the story itself
But is also taken by it
His story, his letter, is ripped out of his hands
His light is rogued
Now we're classpecting hahahaha
I'm coming up w these on the fly
That's the magic of this
You can apply it ANYWHERE
Next pair
Is
ORDER
lifedoom (edited)
@Heir of Heart
Would u like to take this at all
:3
Or should I
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 09:17 PM
you can take it
mostly cause if i talk about Life i am going to fucking s c r e a m
lifescream
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 09:19 PM
Hahahahaha
Okay
LIFE life Life is a cereal
Lemme get back to my laptop lolmad
LIFE life Life is a lot of what you think of when you hear "natural way of things." Yes, it's plants and shit. But it's also the patriarchy!!! It's also the aspect of belonging in the kitchen. No this is not a joke. Why the fuck did hussie do this
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 09:23 PM
Tradition, to put it more neutrally.
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 09:23 PM
Life is compulsive heterosexuality and traditional motherhood. Life is a bonsai tree, trimmed of all "imperfection" -- and this is, to put it bluntly, dependent on the mother.
Life is the executive class.
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 09:24 PM
(its the worst aspect and i hate it)
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 09:24 PM
There are three ish life players in homestuck
Two (ish) are literally empresses or heiresses
One of those two is a genocidal space fascist
Described by the Homestuck OST as "sea hitler"
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 09:25 PM
also in the comic itself
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 09:25 PM
The third is, respectively, a cartoonishly traditional grandmother, baking cookies and everything, or the CEO of Betty Crocker industries
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 09:25 PM
dont read homestuck
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 09:25 PM
Actually like
Two out of the three are CEO of betty crocker industries
Don't read homestuck
DOOM is more interesting in that it's cool in how its different from other death-like "elemental" thingies in fiction
DOOM doom Doom is death, but it is also the cycle that becomes rebirth. Doom is fatalism and the end of all things. Doom is the hurtling wall of entropy -- doom is machines. Doom is, in opposition to life, technology and science. Doom is tied closely to Time - all things musttime enddoom.
Doctor Rrrrobotnik is Doom
doomsob
Doom players are usually overwhelmed by the, uh, quiet comprehending of the ending of it all
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Bo Burnham Inside really do be on the Life/Doom spectrum lol
i think thats about what i wanted to say
anything else?
next is breathblood which is fun bc its mostly easy
haha god yeah no bo burnham inside is 10000000% a doom player
mage of doom?
just utterly overwhelmed by the oncoming tide of changes of technology/the end of the world/the end of our souls, and it takes a very physical toll on him
the horrible blend of technology and the natural world. the birds chirping on recording, the projected trees and sky
i dont know if i love mage
bard of doom
haha
yea
coz he sings
and wants to stop it.
anyway
BREATH breath The fun one! Breath is the aspect of being the wind waker. it's me. Breath is freedom; of movement, of expression, from tyranny. Breath players have connection to the winds of change, the soul (neshama, in hebrew, is also the word for breath). (Breath isn't the element of the immortal soul, though -- that's Heart.) Breath is the soul in your body, which paired with your blood makes you alive.
Famous breath players include John Egbert, Toon Link, Sonic the Hedgehog and Scout TF2.
also aang airbender
Breath players struggle with disconnection. Sometimes it's like they're just -- floating above it all, while everyone else has a place in the earth. While everyone else has bonds and connections. Breath players can also have gender dysphoria haha
YES scout tf2 is trans what the fUCK do you mean
Blood is in opposition to breath
Oh yeah forgot
Breath is innocence, too -- youthful innocence. breathstuck_out_tongue (edited)
A naivete to the cruelty of Man
also, breath is goofy, wacky, silly stuffs
like, idk if Skyward Sword link is breath off the top of my head (he reads maybe more like light) but Toon Link 100000% is.
Partially because the Breath aspect was fashioned in reverse from Toon Link but also just bc, like, everything abt him fits
BLOOD blood Where Breath is the sky, Blood is the Soil. Blood is connections, bonds -- familial (through blood🩸) or through found family, etc. Blood is bonds because blood is what has hemoglobin, the sticky stuff -- blood players have that whole interpersonal shit fucking SORTED. One way or another. Blood is love and blood is physical tangibility and blood is, uh, social conservatism, for some reason? TW, fascism. Again. I hate homestuck Yeah, so, like, for some reason, uh, "blood and soil," the literal nazi slogan, ties together Blood with conservatism very specifically. It's also the whole, planted my feet in the ground thing. Stuck in your ways, bound to tradition. That is, though, like, what can happen w an overdose of the aspect.
bloodrolling_eyes
moving. right the fuck along.
hahaha
oh jeez
hope rage
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transientAcatalepsy 11-Jan-22 09:48 PM
this outta be good
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 09:48 PM
Hope is uh
Okay.
So.
I'm gonna do the formal explanation
And then the silly one that is just
Way way way better
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transientAcatalepsy 11-Jan-22 09:50 PM
(jsyk i'm gonnna go eat dinner soon but i'm reading and absorbing all of this diligently)
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crescentCecropia 11-Jan-22 09:51 PM
soon you'll have a degree in homestuckology
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 09:51 PM
HOPE hope Simply put, Hope is faith. It's faith in yourself, literally tied to the self-esteem of Hope players. It's hope for the universe, like, in the A New Hope Death Star Plans kinda way. It is the belief that your belief is true, simply put!
Hope is often described in canon by its abscence, because the two Hope players we got are an emo genocidal tweenaged Prince and an unrealized Page (edited)
HS characters are wracked with self doubt
But Hope players can like -- you know manifesting, like
the thing where you just
think real hard abt the thing being true
thats hope
they literally can do that
parappa the rappa is hope
NEO is hope
neo is 1000000% hope
like
in the very direct i think neo was on hussie's mind sense
because like
yknow
jesus imagery!
lol
Hope is also tied to like,
Author headstrongitude
Which I'll touch on more in Rage
and there is one more thing after this last part
for Homestuck specifically Hope is horses
because, like, for some fucking reason, theres really a running gag abt horses
i think hussie like, photoshopped horse furry art or something to be cruder, and that was part of his brand
so he incoporated horse jokes
and so like
you have to take into account that
(backed up by the Angels, avatars of Hope, having horse-like heads)
but like yea
so
there's that piece of evidence
and the other piece of evidence is the gent of piss
who
okay
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 09:56 PM
heeere we go
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 09:56 PM
fuck it im coming out and saying it hope is the element of piss
and listen
listen
listen
i know what youre thinking
namely, what
what??????
i am dead serious
not only do i think that hope being piss is intentional
i think its like
key
evidence one horse cock photoshops moving on i dont wanna discuss those further
evidence 2 piss jesus
uh
remember that
like
modern art thing
?????
okay moving on
evidence 3 gent of piss
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 09:58 PM
why are you booing her shes right
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 09:58 PM
fedorafreak is the username of a neighbor of John Egbert
Only known thru his posts on Dad Twitter
He enters a game of Sburb and dies on the, like, basically his phone is destroyed but the implication is that he prestiged
game mechanically speaking. we'll get to that later
and hussie repeatedly insisted that this mans classpect was
gent of piss
he's a prince of hope
the like, stereotype of fedora wearing gents became, very directly, eridan ampora, prince of hope
he is the 4chan edgyboy
and fedorafreak literally dies choking on his own urine
fedorafreak: yes. it is as hoped for beyond hope.
so
uh
yeah.
hope is piss
and so then that positions us
awkwardly
when we look at its anticedent
thats not how antecedent works but
its in the spirit of rage
wait actually heres the hope emote
hopeweary
anyway
hate that aspect its great
oh yeah
hope can also be represented as cancer
endless growth
and the only thing that can cut into that
the only thing stopping the author from just
drinking their own piss
and
i hate this metaphor
so i will stop
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:04 PM
the only thing stopping the author from making homestuck (edited)
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:06 PM
RAGE rage Rage is the aspect that cuts. Rage is the aspect of, like, jokerfication. It's a violent, passionate reaction. It's associated with clowns and theater -- but it's mostly just the aspect of bullshit.
oh fuck
hope <-> rage
horse piss <-> bull shit (edited)
HATE THIS
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:06 PM
RIGHT
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:07 PM
THE WORST
THATS RAGE
RAGE is
the comments section
on the patreon update
on homestuck's patreon.
it is thousands and thousands of tiny words that whisper to you WRONG
It is
It's
this is
unironically
the best visual representation
of the hope/rage dichotomy
hella jeff's unshakeable hope and faith (edited)
and sweet bro trying to FUCKING FIX IT
youre PRAYING WROG
and it can just
if left unchecked
dissolve into a red blurry mess
where nothing has meaning anymore
but you remember the anger.
ragerage
rage is also
the author
intentionally doing stupid shit.
where hope is the integrity of the comic
the solidity of its rules and laws
rage is just
breaking that
for fun
or dramatic liscence
or because its funny lol
the Fucking Clown appears everywhere
why????
because
🤡
if it got you, it worked
rage is best described as losing against the fUCKING FINAL BOSS AGAIN TO A FUCKING CHEAP SHOT HE KNEW I WAS GONNA BE THERE I DIDNT HAVE ANY FUCKING TIME TO DODGE AND THIS STUPID FUCKING CONTROLLER DIDNT LET ME MOVE FAST ENOUGH
i mean
gamer rage
lol
jokerfication
so yeah
hope rage!
last one is mind/heart
these are fun too
heart especially
MIND mind Mind is the aspect of Justice. It is the aspect of law, of decision making. It is the aspect representing the branching tree of results that are created from your each and every choice.
The Player of the Stanley Parable is a Seer of Mind
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:14 PM
Action. Consequence. Sense. Reason.
The physical, the empirical.
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:15 PM
they, wiki page pulled up next to them, know what will result from the choices they let Stanley make.
passive understanding of choice and the law (of the game)
what is and is not possible
Vision Wandavision is a Mind player -- can't recall off the top of my head.
Maid?
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:16 PM
maid?
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:16 PM
Yep
Partially bc he's literally Maid from the Mind stone
but also bc he like
actually mostly that lol
but who else could possibly both a) win a battle by asking someone if they knew what the ship of theseus was and b) lose said battle, having been asked what the ship of theseus was
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:16 PM
He also creates a sense of order and consequence in a fundamentally consequence-free artificial setting.
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:17 PM
yee
but the other thing abt vision too, and that ship of theseus question, is that it, like, is the Heart aspect
which i'll get to after sharing this emoji mindthinking
HEART heart Heart is the aspect of the distributed self. It is emotion, and it is the internal. Heart is the aspect that Hussie chose because haha funny captain planet refrance. Heart is the aspect of the Immortal Soul, across Time and Space, beyond the boundaries of Life and Doom, or the limitations of Breath or Blood. Heart needs no Hope and Heart is not driven by Rage. Heart is also the aspect of internalized transphobia and catgirls
That's the end of this presentation goodnight everybody
(gonna run thru and do a pin roundup if ur good elaborating lmfaooo)
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:21 PM
Blue demands more content about her aspect so that she can know who she is.
This is because Blue is an idiot.
But also because she is an Heir of Heart.
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:22 PM
will be one sec
ok
So the Distributed Self
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:23 PM
See, where Mind is reasonable, logical, and all, heart is Not.
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:23 PM
Weird concept to start w too
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:23 PM
Heart is wooly, wishy-washy.
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:23 PM
I like centering Heart there bc it's the part I like talking about the most
(oh shit)
(i am talking over you)
(ope)
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:24 PM
Heart is ephemeral and impossible to pin down, in the same way that you can struggle with your personal identity all your life.
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:24 PM
yee
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:24 PM
It's emotion and romance and love and all those things that just defy logic.
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:24 PM
heart kinda, Is, identity
and in a setting like Homestuck that is an incredibly loaded term
esp w how much homestuck loves to play w the concept of the Platonic Ideal
Like (edited)
Think Spiderverse, right
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:25 PM
don't look down identity's barrel unless you want to get a face full of masturbatory navelgazing
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:26 PM
If you existed in uncountably infinite different forms across all of time and space (a tv show, a so so ice cream), what does the Ur-Spider-Man look like? The Ultimate Dirk?
(peter b parker. heart player.)
(maybe heir?????????????)
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:26 PM
what does it mean to be you?
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:26 PM
(great power....... great responsibility... didn't ask for it....)
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:26 PM
(omg is my government assigned kin spiderman) (edited)
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:26 PM
(spiderblue???????)
(YOO??????)
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:27 PM
(i can live w that)
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:27 PM
specifically like, shitty emotionally rough spiderman who uh
lolmad
didnt resolve
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:27 PM
(oh)
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:27 PM
most of his feelings
until he DID THO
HE GOT THERE
MET GOD
HE'S BLACK
and named miles morales
lmfao
that was a miku binder jefferson reference
i am scared it's too dated for ppl to get it
so i am pointing it out
but yeah
he just like
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:28 PM
shining a light on it, if you will
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:28 PM
got this
all fuckin
in his hands
hmmmmmmm
idk if miles specifically is light
definitely maybe
and also gwen is a maybe
w the ending scene etc
kingpin tho
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:28 PM
i mean you pointing out the meme lol
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:28 PM
classic vriska
ohhhhhhh
LOL
and here i go warioing it up
vriska
okay
but
yeah
no
anyway
uh
that's
all of them????
okay!!
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:29 PM
okay!
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:29 PM
so that's all the aspects
jesus christ hahaha
we did it
only took
3 hrs
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:29 PM
four hours?
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:29 PM
honestly not bad
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:29 PM
yeah
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:30 PM
for something as famously overcomplex as classpects
now is when we pull out the DUAL CLASSES chart right
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:30 PM
oh god
please dont show them that
i will literally die
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transientAcatalepsy 11-Jan-22 10:31 PM
hey i'm back
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:31 PM
i will
not
hit snd
lolmad
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transientAcatalepsy 11-Jan-22 10:31 PM
it's too late
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:31 PM
welcome back tisky
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transientAcatalepsy 11-Jan-22 10:31 PM
i have it open
zooming in
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:31 PM
dont acutally
i hoped it was too small to see anything
lmfao
close it!!!
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transientAcatalepsy 11-Jan-22 10:32 PM
i have seen everything
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:32 PM
its not 4 public ocnsumtpion
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:32 PM
we made a chart of combinations of two classes because i am a Fool and this wasnt complicated enough for my tastes
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transientAcatalepsy 11-Jan-22 10:32 PM
i am now Joker Manhattan
(yes, that really happened)
anyway
the aspects that spoke to me the most while y'all were describing them were Void and Doom
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i am now Joker Manhattan
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aorticAblution 11-Jan-22 10:36 PM
I see I see you're the Terror of Death
i mean what
haha
dual classes
who would do something like that
threads closed go home
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 10:46 PM
FUCK
LIGHT IS CHESS
FORGOT
TO MENTION THAT
BECAUSE LIKE
GAME MECHANICS WISE CHESS METAPHOR IS THE CONFLICT OF THE STORY
KINGDOM HEARTS ISNT LIGHT OR DARK ITS THE FUCKING CHESS SET
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【SKAIA】 11-Jan-22 11:31 PM
oh forgot that void is also mystery
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【SKAIA】 12-Jan-22 08:13 PM
LIGHT IS LUCK
FORGOT
LOL
What's that thing vriska always says
Like
Lucky break
Lucky 8r8k
Whatever
That!
She literally, as the thief of light, can steal the luck stat away from her enemies, and they trip and fall into their own sword
Etc etc.
I love classpects lol
I keep forgetting stuff
And that's so fun
@aorticAblution summoning the ghost of Thatcher as an attack when
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aorticAblution 12-Jan-22 08:21 PM
oh my god
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